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monday night. and they've eliminated any defunding of obama care, and now they throw the ball back to the house of representatives. much more coverage coming up here in the "cnn newsroom." cnn's don lemon picks up our coverage. all right, wolf, thank you very much. i'm don lemon. we're three days and ten hours away from a possible shutdown of the federal government. and just moments ago, the senate voted to strip out an amendment defunding obama care and passed a bill to fund government operations through mid-november. now it goes to the house of representatives. do you know what a shutdown could mean? i'm going to tell you essential stuff like air traffic control, national security, and social security checks will be just fine. but hundreds of thousands of federal workers face furloughs, national parks and museums, yosemite and the smithsonian will close, visas, passperts, and gun permits will be on hold.
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need small business approval for a loan to open a shop? you're going to have to wait on that. all that could come to a screeching halt after monday. right now, congress appears set to play ping-pong with a bill that could keep everything running. i want to get to our chief congressional correspondent dana bash on capitol hill as well as our congressional correspondent brianna keilar. i read a bunch of stuff. the senate just voted to strip language defunding obama care from the bill to fund the government. so what happens when they send this bill back to the house of representatives? >> it's oniliti its way as we s. they just formally passed the bill keeping the government open for about another month and a half, until november 15th. the answer to what happens next is anybody's guess right now. that's what makes this so fluid. and frankly, a little bit frustrating for a lot of people up here, never mind the people around the country watching. the reason it is so up in the air is because house republican leaders are frankly trying to figure out what to do next. there is a lot of pressure from
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within the republican caucus, this is the caucus that voted initially to defund obama care as part of the spending bill, not to give up, to keep on fighting. the issue for republican leaders is that they don't know yet how to translate that into legislation. what does that mean to fight? does it mean maybe they just put on something to, for example, take away a tax cut -- excuse me, a new tax on medical devices that's part of obama care? does it mean messing with the kind of health care that members of congress and their staff get as part of obama care? those are some of the options they're discussing, but as we speak, senate democrats are having a press conference below me in the capitol saying don't even think about it, republicans. if you send us anything that is different than we just passed, anything that has an issue in it beyond funding the government, we're not going to do it. it's not only ping-pong, it's really more hot potato that
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ping-pong and the house isn't even going to come back in to have a meeting to talk about this, at least republicans, until noon tomorrow. >> brianna, i'm going to get to you in a second. one more question for you, dana. we saw that really interesti in interview with michele bachmann and wolf blitzer. how is that playing on capitol hill because it's not all republicans but some who are hard-liners like michele bachmann who feel the same way about the bill? how is that playing out? what do they think of that the. >> it's very divisive. what michele bachmann is arguing for is what ted cruz argues for. that's why what you saw all week long was some -- something we don't see very often, which is open republican warfare. republican on republican warfare, and the first vote of the day in the senate, which was the telltale sign of the issue, illustrated that. that is only 19 -- including ted cruz, 18 other republicans voted with him, which means the majority of the republican caucus in the senate defied ted
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cruz's wishes to keep the fight going and to defund obama care on top of this spending bill despite the fact that democrats who run the senate weren't going to allow it. >> and again, if you're just tuning in, the senate voted to strip out an monday defunding obama care and keep the government open at least until mid-november. brianna keilar, the obama administration focused on the next bigger fight on the debt ceiling, correct? >> they're focused on both, don. they're stressing at this point, obviously, a government shutdown because maybe when you look at how much economic damage it would do compared to the debt ceiling, it's by far the lesser of the two evils. it's still very bad for the economy and that's the message we'll continue to hear out of the white house. it would be, i think, not out of the realm of normality for president obama to make some sort of maybe not necessarily come out and make a statement, but i think we might be hearing some reaction from the white house or from the president in
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response to this vote that's come out of the senate. obviously, the white house really wants to press the house and keep the pressure on speaker john boehner. we have been hearing from officials here who say, you know, if the speaker just put a clean funding bill on the house floor, it would likely pass. of course, that's something that would require a lot of democratic votes. it's not something, as you have heard dana report, the speaker would like to do, but the white house is saying the will is there. that's what republicans should go ahead and do. they're focused on the ramifications of what would happen of reaching the debt ceiling, don, but at the same time, the line from president obama has been absolutely he's not negotiating. there's going to be absolutely no discussion over it. now, we've heard from house republicans, from the speaker, he said, that's not how things work, but the white house is insistent that's how they're going to do this wr. officials here saying they have negotiated before and now they feel like republicans are making
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such ridiculous in their opinion requests, really to kind of make a choice between defaulting or delaying the implementation of obama care. neither of which they feel is something that should be done. so they just say, we're not even going to negotiate. it's hard to think, don, that ultimately, if this were to move and the speaker didn't bluff and we were heading towards a default that at some point the white house wouldn't step in, but at this point, they're not even going to discuss it. >> brianna keilar and dana bash, thanks to both of you. stand by. we'll get back to you. we want to hear your health care stories and how you feel about the new health care law? go to ireport.com. cnnireport.com and tell us your personal story. just getting this, this is just in to cnn. the plot to kill a u.s. drug enforcement agent and an informant foiled. and now we know who allegedly was behind the horrifying murder plan. two former american soldiers,
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one of them nicknamed rambo, along with a german ex-soldier, want you to take a look at how the u.s. attorney in this case sums up the plot. he said the bone-chilling allegations in today's indictment read like they were ripped from the pages of a tom clancy novel. the charges tell a tale of an international band of mercenary marksmen who enlisted their elite military training to serve as hired guns for evil. the plot began when a law enforcement sting interresulted their plan to send a shipment of cocaine into the united states. ov evan perez live for us in washington. you got ahold of the indictment. what are these ex-soldiers charged with? >> they're charged with conspiracy to kill a federal agent, to try to import cocaine into the united states. but as you described just now, this indictment reads like a spy novel. the leader of this plot whose
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name is joseph hunter, he's the one that prosecutors say went by the nickname rambo. they say he's been a contract killer since he left the u.s. military in 2004. he was a trained sniper instruct instructor, so he knew what he was doing. and you had a couple other -- four other soldiers, one a u.s. military. a couple from germany, one from poland, and now the plot that the prosecutors have described is one in which they were essentially going to kill a dea agent and what they thought was an informant for the dea to try to stop the undermining of a drug trafficking organization. >> evan, how far along were they able to get with this plan? how far along were they with this plan? >> this was a stang. this was something that the dea set up with an informant. they apparently were on to
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hunter, so they decided to set up this elaborate plot where by they were going to set up a killing of an agent in liberia. so they were -- this was about to happen. this was -- the entire thing was set up to go down now. a couple of these guys were arrested in liberia and the last couple days. hunter was arrested in thailand and he's on his way to new york where he's going to face charges. the details are just really chilling, as you said, don. >> evan perez in washington, we appreciate your reporting. on now to the nsa. workers there snooped on lovers, spouses. even people they had a crush on. they used surveillance powers given to protect them from terrorists. does that sound familiar? like an old movie script, right? >> i got all the usual stuff, a gps tracker, an audio transmitter, a power supply, and a sewn in lining here. >> well, arnold swauz nager played a spy snooping on his
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wife in 1994's "true lies." so here's what we know about nsa workers spying on love interests. in one case, a woman tracked a number she found in her cell phone contacts because she believed hubby was unfaithful. in another case, a worker searched six e-mail addresses belonging to his ex-girlfriend. another case, a male worker listened to conversation of nine workers belonging to women for no valid readsen. i want to bring in danny suvoles. they found at least 12 of these instants of abuse. no one was ever charged. what's your reaction to this? >> my reaction is i'm surprised it's only 12. look, with these questions, we have to ask, who watches the watchmen? because we have to give humans some access, some authority, if we want to have them maintain the power to look through our e-mails, phones, whatever. but once we do that, invariably,
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humans are human. they're going to give in to whatever their needs and desires are. this is going to happen from time to time. it happens as it is now on a lower level with what we call the ncic. that's the police database that any policeman in their squad car can access. it's similar. i mean, it's human activated, and they often, not often, i shouldn't say that, but from time to time, they use them to look up things about girlfriends or wives or whatever. >> when you're looking at the number of workers, people who have worked for the nsa over the years and look at this percentage wise, is this something that is worse? not that you're making excuse said. you say this is human behavior. it does happen? >> what is even more surprising is it appears most of these incidents are self-reported. maybe sometimes even during a lie detector test. this is not something that's being tracked with some formula or some other algoritalgorithm. these incidents may only be human self-reporting, which is kind of scary when you think there may be a lot more out there. >> takes cyberstalking, that
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term, to a whole new level. >> sure does. >> thank you. we appreciate that. >> coming up, a teenager is found hanging in a sex game gong terribly wrong. i'm going to speak with his father who is being very open about his message to other parents. plus, a troubling new reports suggested in the next 30 years, parts of the east coast will need to be evacuated because of global warming. find out who's at risk. and samuel l. jackson tells president obama, stop using slang and start acting presidential. does he have a point? or is he wrong? we're going to discuss coming up. ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again.
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a new global report is the latest proof behind these pictures. ice melting, glaciers shrinking as ocean temperatures rise. climate change is happeningering according to 2500 pages from the intergovernmental panel of climate change. first part of the report, it just came out today. nearly 1,000 researchers back it up, and just as many vetted this report. and there are big conclusions, 95% confident humans are causing the earth to heat up in the last 50 years. >> 2001-2010, was the warmest on record. continuing the trend of global warming. more temperature records were broken than in any other previous decade.
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>> let's talk about this now with dan. he's a senior science editor at nationalgeographic.com. i want to start with this interview from geologist science guide from miami talking about what the rising ocean waters will do. >> by the midpart of the century, 2050, 2060, most of the barrier islands in the world are going to have to be evacuated. >> he's talking to our chad myers there, our meteorologist here at cnn. explain this timeline. why by midcentury? >> these are the low-lying places in the world where three feet of sea rise is, you know frk covering half the island. even a foot of sea level rise is a threat to these sort of low-lying places. that one you might see in locations like, you know, the keys, barrier islands, louisiana river delta, and so forth. even a foot of sea level rise where you only have seven feet of island, that's a lot. >> so this global warming will
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cause fewer cold nights and days. is that accurate, according to this report? >> yeah, it already has. they are basically measuring temperature records and seeing in the last 50 years we have more warm nights, fewer cold nights, fewer, you know, cold days. and more things like heat waves. those are the sort of broad temperature effects that can already be seen and we would expect to accelerate as things get warmer. >> we have the climate change deniers and people on the other side say they're going to think this report is biased, but do you think this changes any minds? >> it depends on who you're talking to. there's as many different kind of climate naysayers as there are different kinds of foods. there's all kinds. the debate really among the naysayers is yeah, it's happening, but it's not going to be so bad, not so much that it's not happening. it won't change minds. that's how you make a living, you won't change a mind, but you might hope people in the middle
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are going to hear the message that scientists say they're more certain than ever and they're going to think, well, maybe it's time to take it more seriously. >> it's interesting you say that's how you make a living, that's not going to change your mind. what does this say about prevention, about stopping climate change? >> basically, we need to cut emissions of greenhouse gases. is the simplest step. the report itself isn't the mitigation report, the part where we talk about fixes. that comes later, next year. this is basically just diagnostic of how things are right now, but it does look into the future and say, sure, as long as emissions go up, then things get hotter and we see effects like we are seeing. >> thanks very much. appreciate your expertise. >> you bet. still ahead here, actor samuel l. jackson calls out the president. find out why jackson wants to school obama on his grammar, and the tough love doesn't end there. first, there's this.
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are you ready for some football? well, in great britain, that is? the minnesota vikings and pittsburgh steelers will kick off in london on sunday. we don't know who will win, but we know both teams will need a lesson in british vivyeah. andy has more. >> the nfl first started putting on a yearly game in london back in 2007. before the season, the vikings and steelers looked like a great matchup. well, both teams are 0-3, and
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sunday's game is pretty much a must-win for both squads. the players have to be focused on the task at hand, but all work and no play isn't good for anyone. cnn's amanda davis had a chance to ask tough questions to a few of the vikings players but not necessarily all about football. >> can you name the newest member of the royal family? >> yes, i think his name is alex. >> oh, man. >> come on, really have to ask me that? >> george. >> george, i knew that. >> i read that in the latest "us weekly." not really. >> if i said fergie, who would that be? >> a pop star. >> she sang "my humps." >> good singer. >> what's big ben? >> the clock. >> no idea. >> the clock. >> the bell, i think. >> i hate these quizzes. they make people like me look like a complete idiot. >> burger and fries or fish and chips. >> burger and fries. >> fish and chips. >> james bond's code name.
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>> 007. >> 007. >> 007-code name? >> i have no idea. >> 007's code name. that's me who's got it wrong. james bond's code name. >> thanks to amanda davis for that. records aside, this game should draw a good crowd, as always. kickoff from across the pond is at 1:00 p.m. eastern sunday afternoon. that will do it for your bleacher report. all right, thank you very much for that. the ring leaders reportedly behind a wild house party inside retired nfl lineman brian holloway's home have surrenders to police. they arrested six people they say organized a massive bash last month inside holloway's home. pictures of the party and the massive damage that occurred showed up immediately on twitter. when holloway saw it, he started a viral campaign to catch the culprits. one parent who knows holloway broke down in hetears asking fo him to have mercy on her son. >> this is what i don't
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understand. >> i don't understand it all myself. all i know is my son is my life. >> listen, we love seth. we took him in our house. >> i know. i don't understand. >> when he didn't haveou to go go beith m family, but look at me. promise me i'm not going to bury him. >> no, no. >> okay? >> because i couldn't go through it. >> okay? >> i've been through too much. >> give me a hug. >> he's my baby. >> i know. >> well, the sheriff says there will be hundreds more arrests. holloway says his house sustained more than $20,000 in damage. samuel l. jackson says president obama needs to get scary and start being presidential. stop using slang, the actor says. does jackson have a point or is he completely off base? we're going to debate this next. ♪
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about what everybody is talking about on social media when it comes to dealing with critical issues in the nation. does the president need to toughen up or get scary? samuel l. jackson seems to think he needs to do the latter. you may have heard about his recent comments in "playboy" magazine saying president obama needs to stop dropping the gs on his words. stop trying to relate and just conjugate, mr. president. be more presidential. during that interview, jackson also reaffirmed what he said in a previous interview, saying he wants to see a scary obama. jackson told playboy, quote, he got heated about the kids getting killed in nigh tn and about the gun law. he's still a safe dude. if hillary clinton decides to run, she's going to kick their -- they being republicans, f'ing as. glad i didn't say that. i almost did. i was like -- scared me there for a second. joining me, cmn political si.tor, ben furtherenso ev an,
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>> can't make any promises. >> ben, why is this such a touchy subject? >> there's this thing called the politics of respectability. there's a certain sentiment among black middle class folk that they want to appear in the general public to look a certain way, to be a certain way too, be respectable, dignifiy eied folk. obama represents the ultimate dream. if he's dropping his gs and not speaking english properly, it makes some people anxious. i disagree entirely. i think it's elitist. it's nothing but ridiculousness. and quite frankly, samuel l. jackson of all people is going to give a lesson on language? this is the guy who curses in every movie. even the voiceover -- >> mark, it's samuel l. jackson. everybody is so up in arms. my gosh, can everybody take a chill pill. it's samuel l. jackson. he's the guy with the nursery
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rhyme, go the, you know what, to sleep. >> exactly. >> politics, which is a term many laugh at, respectable to each other or respectable to white people? >> white people. >> that's a bunch of crap. i don't think samuel l. jackson cares how he looks to white people or anybody else. when people say that, people get confused with saying you should >> if president obama starts pronouncing the word g, his life is going to get bet snr he's already president. what personal benefit does he have from speaking english differently when he's speaking to crowds. >> maybe it's his affect on young people who look up to him. maybe it's because in order to get a job, in order to have a viable career, you need to be able to pronounce certain words and speak english. >> in certain settings. at the state of the union, he's not saying, hey, y'all, we're invading iraq or we're fitting to invade syria.
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hillary clinton sduz the same thing, goes into selma and speaks like a black person, tries to clap on beat. you see george bush go to texas and speak with a drawl. everybody does it, let's let president obama do what everybody else does. >> all right, y'all, i'm going to go to the white guy. what did you think, ben? >> that was the most fun i have ever had not talking on cnn ever. wow. i'm going to sit back and relax and enjoy the show here. look, i think the president, one of the things that's great about him that's got him elected not once but twice is he's been able to go around and be a chameleon. he's been able to speak at the million dollar dinners, go to hollywood and speak with the hollywood types, get down in the south and drop the gs if he wants to with the crowd. i think samuel's point is at some point, you are the president, and the president should act like the president and not try to change for a group. when you're the president of the united states of america. his other point is what example does it set for young kids who
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are trying to get out and are trying to get a job, and are trying to make something of themselv themselves? they should look up to the president and say he's incredibly well spoken, incredibly well educated and i'm going to work hard and stay out of trouble and make good grades and want to aspire to be that instead of him coming down to a different level because he thinks it's somehow more acceptable to the audience which i actually think helps push stereotypes instead of break them down. i kind of find a little of what samuel l. jackson said refreshing minus all the curse words in there. >> come on, ben, you can't be serious. >> he kind of made a point. i am serious. >> why can't he be serious? >> you're kind of being ridiculous right now. >> go ahead. >> first, the president is not coming down a notch because he drops a g when he's talking to an informal odd yngs. we all do it. the president is well spoken, the president is well educated. he doesn't compromise -- >> i agree. >> because when he's at a craft fair, he says, hey, everybody, i
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was riding my bike yesterday. that's okay to do that. part of the example is you don't have to be on all the time. normal time, successful people speak informally to crowds. i do it all the time, you do, don does, and we all turned out okay. >> do you want that from the president of the united states of america? >> yes. >> to walk into the room and change the way he speaks just because he thinks it may somehow make him a little more hip or cool in that room? >> yes, i do. i want him to relate. >> hang on. i understand what both of you are saying. and they all do it. we notice, remember during 2008, hillary clinton would do it, especially if she went to a black church or black crowd, she would do the same thing. people do it. isn't this just human nature, though? as i said, are we putting too much really into this? nobody? >> it's your show, bro. >> nobody, anybody? listen, marb -- >> here's the thing.
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>> mark -- >> let me say this. i think being the president of the united states of america is something people should want to aspire to. there's a certain level of kind of you're awesome and you're proper, and you are sophisticated. and there's nothing wrong with that. embrace it so people see it. >> he's already that. come on. >> ben, i am going to remind you of this and we're going to play this back the next time you talk about the liberal elites who think they're better than everybody. you attacked john kerry for speaking french in 2004. >> don't forget limousine liberal. >> exactly. >> mark, why is this -- i want to know, why is this so controversial? because it's been -- i talked about this in 2008, 2009, 2010, 20 2011, 2012, and it's always controversial. and quite honestly, mark, why do black folks get so upset when you talk about this? >> well, i think -- >> it's mostly black folks. >> many bourgeois elite folk are
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embarrassed when something resembles something of the black poor. many feel differently and feel like this is ridiculous talk that reflects the shame of the middle class of the poor. it's okay to speak like us, to hang with us. you can say our name and nothing bad is going to happen, samuel jackson, the president, anybody. can why can't there be more outrage? of all the things going on in the world, syria, health care, the economy, this is what ticks off samuel jackson? >> the article was saying he should get stronger and tougher, and there is a danger in there where he doesn't want to come off as being the angry black man, which is a csubject we hav tackled a lot of. that's why we tackled that. do you think that's legitimate, first to you, ben, and then to mark. >> do i think, say that one more time? >> about he has to pplook at hi they look at him as the president of the united states of america who is allowed to get angry and be inspired even if i disagree with him.
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i respect that when any president does it because it shows they care and have a heart. sometimes you're not always supposed to be politically correct or perfect. >> wait a minute! >> being powerful is something people want you to have. there's a difference between that and dropping the g. there's a big difference between those two things. >> you just said -- >> i know where you're going to go with this. >> because you know i'm right. you said you don't have to beef perfect all the time. you don't have to be like this, but then you say he should never drop the g. that's a complete contradiction. >> you caught yourself as you were saying it. >> cut, print, and drag you off in the next reel. thank you, we're done. appreciate both of you wrarb. coming up, the makers of barilla pasta could be facing a boycott. find out what the company's president said that have them in hot water. >> plus, they thought they were goners when a robber pulls a trigger on a gun over and over and over again. wait until you find out the twist of fate that saved lives in mcdonald's.
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some of the hottest stories in a flash. rapid fire, roll it. first up, a doctor celebrated passing his board examines with a few cocktails, but the celebration was cut short when he fell off a boston subway platform and onto the tracks. the man simply walked over the edge. luckily, several good samaritans jumped to his aid and rivlged their own safety to rescue him. police say the man suffered a minor head injury. the good doctor says he doesn't remember a thing. >> the world's biggest pasta maker facing a boycott after their president said same-sex couples will not be featured in his company's commercials and he preferred traditional families. listen to what he told radio 24 in italy. >> translator: i would never do a commercial with them. not for lack of respect for
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homosexual families but because we don't think like them. we think ours is a classic family. >> well, twitter exploded after his comments. the hash tag #boycott barilla started spreading. barilla has apologized, issued three apologies so far. >> two cantaloupe farmers could go to prison for a listeria outbreak that killed three people. they pled not guilty. the now bankrupt farms has been linked to what authorities say was the deadliest outbreak of food bourn illness in 89 years. the brothers call the outbreak a terrible accident. their trial is set for december. blackberry lost nearly a billion dollars last quarter. the struggling smartphone maker may be nearing the end of the end. its losses stem from unsold phones, blackberries, new z -10 phone totally tanked. up next on cnn, a story you don't want to miss. a 13-year-old found hanging in
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asfix yashz. it is said to have taken the lives of some big stars. david carradine found hanging in a hotel room, and the singer of inxs michael hutchins in a hotel room in 1997. it's the act of choking yourself, usually by hanging. slow ly slowing the oxygen to te brain while masturbating. supposedly, increasing sexual pleasure. death by autoerotic asphyxiation is often covered up by the family of those killed, some even preferring to say it was suici suicide. not our next guest. ed's 13-year-old son died while performing the sexual act on himself, and he wants other people to know about it. ed, thank you so much for being here. >> you're welcome. >> you're doing okay? >> you know, we're having quite a bit of trouble. we still don't want to accept
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that, you know, he's gone. but i have a strong urge to get the word out. and at least be able to tell kids, teachers, parents, whoever i can, so that, you know, if this saves one person, i would be more than happy. it's just a terrible situation that we're going through. >> we'll talk more about knowledge in just a little bit, about informing people about this. but i want to go back and find out what happened on that day last week. your wife found your son's body. can you tell me about that? >> yeah. you know, we're divorced. and every wednesday, thursday, i pick them up after school. i was at the grocery store, and almost done grocery shopping and i get a call. and it was my ex-wife on the phone. and she was hysterical.
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and you know, yelling on the phone, i couldn't understand what she said. my heart just about stopped. i knew something was wrong. i ran out of the store. she had told me that my son tried to kill himself. and from that point forward, you know, as a parent, you start to beat yourself up, wondering, what did you do wrong? that wasn't the case. you know, for about, i don't even know, about a 36-hour period, i had been doing research, going online, looking for this, looking for that. but basically, what had happened was he had been doing his homework once she left. she dropped our girls off to cheerleading practice. she gets home, calls his name. he didn't answer. and went to his door. his door was locked. she unlocked it. she went into his room. and found him in the closet.
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and from there, she actually started to perform cpr and if it wasn't for what she had done, we wouldn't have had the time that we had to say good-bye. so i'm forever grateful for that. as far as from there forward, it was, you know, a week in the hospital that i can tell you i don't even feel like i was there. >> yeah. >> it was just unbearably, you know, heartbreaking. and my whole family, friends, just everybody. when i did find out -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> no, i can't even imagine what you're going through. and listen, this isn't anything new. it happened to a high school teacher, her son, the same thing, 20 years ago. so there's -- there is, you're
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right, a lack of information out there. as you mentioned in the beginning of this interview. this is a taboo conversation to be having because of the sexual component. when is the right time, you think, for parents to talk about this with their kids? >> well, you know, i have to tell you, too, it's not just, you know, kids doing this. you know, for masturbation. it's also kids doing it just to feel the, i guess, the way they feel when they get their oxygen back. you know, this is a situation that's been going on, and with the research i found, it was happening in canada in the bathrooms in the school. and they changed a bunch of things in the school, and they added it to what they're teaching and pulled everything out that they could use, i guess, is what i'm trying to
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say. but it's a horrible situation. and i'm just -- you know, we're all heartbroken. >> listen, i know that you -- it's your mission now to get schools to talk about this, to add this in part to their curriculum. i wish you luck. i think you're right on. information is powerful and it does help. if it saves one life, as they say, it's all worth it. ed, thank you very much. we appreciate it, okay? >> you're welcome. >> we'll be right back in a moment. i'm beth... and i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love. ink from chase.
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i'm don lemon. thank you so much for joining us. a huge story we're following right now. the foiled plot to kill a u.s. drug enforcement agent and an informant. and you won't believe who was allegedly behind the horrifying murder plan. two former american soldiers. one nicknamed rambo, along with a german ex-soldier. the murder plot began when a law enforcement sting interrupted their elaborate plan to protect the shipment of cocaine into the u.s. and just minutes ago, we heard from the u.s. attorney in this case, and he doesn't mince words. >> the bone-chilling allegations in today's indictment read lie like they were ripped from the pages of a tom clancy novel. the charges tell a tale of an international band of mercenary marksmen who enlisted their elite military training to serve as hired guns for evil ends. as alleged in the indictment unsealed today, the former soldiers were hand picked by joseph hunter to assist a purported colombian drug
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trafficking organization. all five defendants allegedly worked to import hundreds of kilograms of cocaine into the united states, and as alleged in the indictment, three of the former soldiers went one terrible step further. three of the defendants were ready, willing, and eager to take cold, hard cash to commit the cold-blooded murders of a dea agent and an informant. >> let's get now to our justice correspondent, our justice reporter, evan perez, live in washington now. what else did the u.s. attorney have to say about what they're accused of, evan? >> don, this was supposedly a security team, and this was an operation that the dea decided to mount. a sting operation because they believed that these men were essentially working for drug cartels to do murder for hire plots. now, the leader of this plot is joseph hunter, according to prosecutors. he's allegedly the one who led this team. he is a former army sniper
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instructor for 20 years in the u.s. army. and since he left the military in 2004, according to the prosecutors, he has been working essentially as -- carrying out murders and getting paid for them. there was this exchange earlier this year by a dea undercover informant, who sent an e-mail to hunter asking him whether he was willing to kill a dea agent and an informant? and it goes something like this. the informant asks him, are you guys willing to carry out this -- kill these guys? and hunter replies, my guys will handle it. are you talking about both the captain and agent? the informant replies they could do either. hunter replies back, they will handle both jobs. they just need good tools.
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according to the diemindictmentt was announced today, these guys were traveling all the way from africa to thailand, having these meetings. they were recorded by an informant by the dea, and they have quite a bit of detail as to how this is all going down. >> all right, evan perez in washington, thank you very much. we are just getting word here to cnn in about 20 minutes, president obama will deliver a statement at the white house. we're assuming the topic is the senate vote to fund the government through mid-november, but the threat of a government shutdown still hangs over everyone's head. senate democrats put funding for obama care back into the bill before passing it today and sending it to the house of representatives. republicans could change it again. here's what the government shutdown would mean. hundreds of thousands of federal workers furloughed. national parks and museums, yosemite and the smithsonian closed. visas, passports, and gun permits put on hold. same for loans that go through the small business administration.
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candy crowley is our chief political correspondent, anchor of "state of the union" and i watch her every sunday, every time she's on. we're just three days away from a possible shutdown. i know how you're going to spend your weekend, watching congress play hot potato with this bill. >> and in particular, watching the house because we have no reason to believe that the house is going to pass what they're calling a clean spending bill. that is a spending bill without anything on it. now, what we have heard is that perhaps house republican s wil attach one that says how about a bill that delayed the health care act for a year, arguing businesses have been given this year-long waiver, so too many things are going wrong, let's do another year. obviously, it's very hard to get something up and running if you don't get it up and running. and this is not going to pass muster on the senate. the question is how long do you play ping-pong between the senate and house before someone hits it off the table? i mean, this is -- in as many
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years as i have watched this sort of thing take place, it's hard for me to see where the way out is. i don't know where the exit is on this one. >> and there's no one guiding you like the flight attendants. >> they don't seem to know. honestly, the leadership doesn't seem to know where this is going. and i don't get the sense that there's -- you know, secret meetings going on some place to find a way out. >> yeah. this bill goes back to the house amid a really big rift among house republicans. john boehner is in a really tight spot here, isn't he? >> yes, he is. it's not an unfamiliar place for him these days, actually. he has 35, maybe 40 members of his caucus who can be identified sort of roughly as tea party caucus members. they tend to be on the ted cruz/mike lee sort of side of things. they say, you know, we want to keep the government open just so long as we defund obama care.
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this leader is very pragmatic. he has given voice to all of these members, but i think he knows, and he understands it's never going to happen in the senate. so the question is, will there be a time when he goes back to his caucus and says, i pushed this as far as it's going to go, and here's what's going to happen if we don't find some accommodation. because obviously, i think the votes are there. if you took the republicans who think that this is a bad place to discuss obama care on a spending bill without which the government will shut down and there are democrats who would vote for it. so there's a group there. the question is whether that bill will get to the floor, and that's going to be up to john boehner who will then have to face that part of his caucus that doesn't want that kind of bill on the floor. >> candy, get your sleep tonight because it's going to be a long weekend. >> it will be interesting, or not so much. one of the two. thanks, don. >> thank you. we appreciate candy crowley joining us.
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president obama will make a statement in about a half hour. we'll bring it to you live right here on cnn. in the meantime, early this afternoon, he did speak on syria. calling developments, quote, potentially huge. he was talking about a u.n. deal on syria. this is a proposed agreement reached with syria. it would demand syria give up its chemical arms. >> the fact that we now have a framework that will be voted on, perhaps as soon as today, perhaps over the weekend or monday, that would be legally binding, that would be verifiable and enforceable, where there would be consequences for syria's failure to meet what has been set forth in this resolution, i think, is a potentially huge victory for the international community. there's a caveat here. the resolution, if agreed upon in its form will not threaten
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don lemon here on cnn, just getting more information. probably 15 minutes, the president is going to speak out on the budget crisis and possible government shutdown that is looming, the partial government shutdown looming. president going to speak. we'll bring it to you live here on cnn, probably very close to the bottom of the hour, but it could happen at any moment so make sure to stay tuned. in the meantime, we're going to do other business and talk about one of the great american
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cities, immortalized in song and on the nation's roads. it's best known products sat just about in every driveway. >> the one fine car in the low-price field. new fashion car styling. take the wheel of a new ford and feel the difference. >> they sat in just about every driveway, but detroit has long been on the decline. it hit rock bottom this summer, becoming the largest u.s. city to file for bankruptcy. tens of thousands of buildings are ruins or abandoned. half the street lights don't work. if you call police, it's likely you'll have to wait at least an hour before they arrive. two thirds of the city's parks are closed, but they're getting help. $300 million just announced by the obama administration. poppy harlow is here. this is really a drop in the bucket compared to the other needs that detroit, how much they need. >> so i think that's such an important point because as we
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know, detroit filed for bankruptcy. biggest city ever to do so. $18 billion in the hole. this is $300 million. it's federal money coming to detroit from a lot of different grants. big announcement, many members of the obama administration, including attorney general eric holder in detroit for this meeting with city officials today. about half the money is going to go to blight removal. it we could pull up some of the pictures we were showing you. this is the picture you see of detroit over and over, abandoned homes and buildings, about 70,000 of them. the idea is they're dangerous, bad for the city. businesses don't want to come when they see things like this. you have about $150 million going towards that. a lot of money is also going toward safety precautions like hiring more police officers, firefighters. when you hear 58-minute response time, that's unacceptable. that's five times more than any other american city. but i think we really need to make clear here, this isn't a bailout. this is not a bailout for detroit. >> the auto industry was bailed out and then the president is saying this is not a bailout.
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>> it's fougnot going to happen. the emergency manager went to the white house and it was made clear to limthere will be not be a bailout. politically, we won't get the vote, and if we could, every city would come to us for a bailout. i want to play you sound from secretary donovan of hud today talking about what the administration thinks is ahead for detroit. >> this president is committed to the future of detroit. we all believe that this will be one of the great comeback stories in the history of american cities. >> i think that is the hope he made clear, don, that the administration is backing up. detroit is here for detroit, but i have spent so much time in this city and there are so many wonderful things about it, so many wonderful people, a vibrancy and a resilience to the city. downtown is getting a lot of money, private industry. there's a long way to go and a lot of neighborhoods that have frankly been forgotten, and $300 million hopefully helps but it's
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a band-aid. >> as you were giving the information, one of the signs on the side of the building said "zombieland." >> because so many people have left. >> $300 million to the $18 billion they're in the red. >> i want to make one more point, and that is have the pensioners, the city workers and retirees that are going to see their pensions cut and their health care benefits cut because of bankruptcy, this isn't going to help them. this doesn't change it for them. >> $300 million. >> $300 million. >> thank you. prepare to evacuate. that's one of the eye-opening conclusions from the report on global warming. rising waters will flood some low-lying areas in a few decades. we'll tell you what areas could be the hardest hit, and president obama going to make a statement from the white house on the budget fight. is a government shutdown deadline just days away? we'll bring it to you live. oungs life could be hectic. angie's list saves me a lot of time. after reading all the reviews i know i'm making the right choice.
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according to 2500 pages from the intergovernmental panel on climate change. the first part of the report just came out today. nearly 1,000 researchers back at it, and just as many vetted it. all right, and their big conclusion is they're 95% confident humans are causing the hurth to heat up in the last 50 years. >> the decade 2001 to 2010 was the warmest on record, continuing the trend of global warming. more temperature records were broken than in any other previous decade. >> so just some of the predictions from the report, those storms of the century will happen more often, and waterfront property may be underwater before the 22nd century begins. one city is seeing the signs of it. chad myers is in miami for us. >> the ocean is rising quicker than in decades past. and predictions made by some research scientists make the
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situation sound pretty dire. >> by the midpart of the century, 2050, 2060, most of the barrier islands in the world are going to have to be evacuated. >> that includes miami. it's hard to imagine iconic miami beach deserted, but it's obvious flooding water is a problem. >> we live on limestone. it's like porous sponge. we really can't use levees to hold back the water. >> while the city continues to find ways to deal with the excess water, many experts say there's no way to stop it. >> we saw barricades and sand bags all along alton because the water sits there in high tide. let's put one more foot of water on top of this, just for a one-foot sea level rise from here to miami beach. what does that look like? >> you're telling me every streets that blue is going to have water in it if we have a one-foot rise in sea level? >> yeah, and the tides f we get
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king tides, it will be higher than this. but this is essentially showing you the places that are going to be affected first. >> the important thing is to keep observing what's happening, look at all the ranges and projections, and then come back to the policymakers and say here's the actions you have to take. >> the southeast florida climate change compact has been created to monitor and help mitigate the harsh consequences of climate change. >> they're not sticking their heads in the sand. they know this is a real problem. >> there's so much more to the story. i know we're in south florida, miami-dade, but broward county under the gun, too. all the big cities across the country that are along the shore. new orleans, tampa, ft. myers, up the east coast, all very close to the shore, the water is risin rising. when the water rises, there's more erosion, there's more higher water tables and more problems. this is not over. in fact, it's just starting. back to you. >> chad myers, thank you very much for that.
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this is just in. another state now permitting same-sex marriages. a new jersey judge has just ruled that same-sex marriages must be allowed based on this
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summer's supreme court case that struck down the defense of marriage act. the judge said new jersey can begin issuing licenses to gay couples starting october 21st. that gives the state time to appeal the decision, but there's no word if that will happen. want to get you live now to the white house briefing room and tell you at any moment president barack obama is going to come out and make a statement, i believe, to be about the economy, soon, and the looming possibility of a looming shutdown. possibility of a shutdown. he's going to do that live. we'll bring it to you. cnn's wolf blitzer will pick up our special coverage right after this break. [ chainsaw buzzing ] humans. sometimes, life trips us up.
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and kills bacteria for fresh breath. ♪ fixodent, and forget it. following breaking news. we've just learned the president of the united states about to going into the white house briefing room to make a statement on a possible government shutdown. the senate has just passed legislation that will allow the government to continue to be funded at least temporarily, but it does eliminate what the house
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earlier had passed, namely the defunding of obama care. brianna keilar is in the briefing room. the ball is now in the house ofru ofruof representati representatives. we're waiting to see what the house of representatives has done, but presumably the president will once again make his case, keep the government operational, keep the government funded, don't start tinkering with obama care right now. the president was very, very outspoken on that yesterday. i assume there will be more of that right now. brianna is standing by. we'll get to her in a moment, but candy crowley and gloria borger is here. dana bash is in capitol hill. the president wants to put the pressure on the house of representatives, the speaker, john boehner, specifically, passed some legislation. don't shut the government down tuesday morning. >> right, and presumably, he's going to congratulate the senate
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on doing the right thing and put the ball in the house's court, and he's going to say to republicans, it's time for you to get your act together, and you know, john boehner is going to start meeting with republicans tomorrow at noon to try and figure out if they can find a way out of this mess. right now, wolf, i don't see it. maybe they'll come up with some brilliant idea, but it's going to be very hard for him to coral those conservative republicans. >> normally, crowellandy, when can't come up with the appropriate appropriations bills every year to keep the government operational, they pass what's called a continuing resolution that continues to fund the government. that's what they have normally done. in this particular case, though, they're not going to do that. maybe. >> maybe. it doesn't seem as though, and i think what's also missing as far as i know, is any cross party conversation about plan b. like, you know, you usually say in a back room, these people are talking about what to do when all these other people are
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finished yelling. part of the problem the president is going to have is that a lot of the folks that are saying we want some changes in obama care in exchange for this continuing spending bill, is that they're immune to his terms on this. this is -- they want obama care gone, and they are talking to their constituents. these are people who represent constituents, who believe in what they're doing. it makes them immune. >> the problem also is that the leaders don't really represent, you know, their flock anymore. particularly in the house. i mean, john boehner is speak for himself. if this were up to john boehner, this would have been done, but he can't speak for all his republicans anymore. he's got to try to figure out a way either around him and go this without some of them and in concert with some democrats to keep the government funded, or not. and continue this. i mean, this is not a situation he loves to be in. he was dragged into this kicking and screaming. >> but he's used to it now, i must say. >> let's go to capitol hill.
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dana bash is standing by. the senate passed the legislation to keep the government funded. they eliminated what had earlier passed the house of representatives, the defunding of obama care. the ball is now in the court of john boehner, the speaker of the house. republicans in the house. i think all the democrats are pretty much united in the house of representatives. they want to continue funding and they're not willing to tinker right now with obama care. set the scene for us, dana. what's about to happen over this weekend? >> we don't know. i mean, that is the honest answer. we don't know, and it's because house republican leaders don't have a plan yet. in fact, wolf, as the senate was passing its bill funding the government, the house was already done with business for the day. the parking lot in the capitol was filled with cars. several of the members who live close by went back to their constituents for the night, went home for the night, and plan to be back here tomorrow. there's going to be a meeting of house republicans. right now, planned for noon tomorrow, for them to sort out what trar rr going to try to do.
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it might seem unbelievable, but this is a symptom of the issue we have seen for weeks and weeks, months and months, and even longer, which is house republicans have a very strong e very vocal caucus of about 40 people, maybe more, who are demanding that they not give up. in fact, a republican leadership source said to me, our members want to fight. they're not just exactly sure what they want to fight about or for. that's the situation republican leaders are in right now. they're trying to kind of navigate that. there of course is a possibility that they could pass a bill keeping the government running and do it with heavy democratic support if a lot of the republican rank and file members vote no, but that would put john boehner potentially in a really big bind with his own caucus. so they're trying to figure out exactly what the best course is going forward. >> they have two, three days left to do it. stand by. dana, brianna keilar, our senior white house correspondent,
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you're in the briefing room, brianna. the president is about to walk into the briefing room, make a statement. is he sticking around to answer questions? have they said? >> no, they haven't said, wolf. we don't know at this point, but we do expect him here in the briefing room shortly. of course, we have been hearing from the white house the message that i think we're expecting in part from president obama and that we have been hearing from the white house is really just putting pressure on house republicans. what the white house obviously would prefer is that the house just take up the bill that has made its way through the senate now. a clean spending bill, as they put it. they say that the house should just accept it. this would fund the government through mid-november, and they say that would give obviously several weeks to work out some sort of budget agreement, which as you know, having watched many attempts at budget agreements, it seems perhaps unlikely they could even come to further agreement. they're so far apart, perhaps farther apart than they have
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ever been, even perhaps in their past negotiations, wolf. >> they will have another chance. let's say, brianna, that they do go ahead and pass some sort of spending resolution in the house of representatives, something acceptable to the senate and doesn't include a defunding of obama care, the government continues to operate, at least for a few more weeks if not a few more months. there is another big fight coming up october 17th. by october 17th, brianna, that they have to raise the debt ceiling, republicans are making demands on what they would do in order to vote to raise the debt ceiling, allow the federal government to borrow, not default on various expenditures, but the president has drawn a line as recently as yesterday and said he will not negotiate on anything in order to raise the debt ceiling. is there any wiggle room there as far as you can tell, brianna, at all? >> talking, i know it's hard to imagine, wolf, the idea that perhaps the white house would not negotiate when it comes to the debt ceiling, the idea that
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the debt ceiling could be breached, which to hear from the white house would be economically calamitous. it's hard to imagine they would allow the debt ceiling to be breached without engaging house republicans, but they're insistent that's what they're doing. they feel if they are to negotiate, if they are to give anything, they will only continue to see furlth demands from house republicans. they say they have negotiated in the past and then it gets them into a bad place. so they don't want to continue with that. and you ask officials here over and over, is there any negotiating room? they insist, wolf, there isn't, but also keep in mind, we do have some time before that deadline of october 17th when the debt ceiling is expected to be hit. >> brianna, they haven't given us a two-minute warning. usually before the president walks in, they make a two-minute warning announcement. they haven't dub that yet, right? >> no, we haven't had that yet.
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>> you let us know when you get the two-minute warning. we're anxious to hear what the president has to say. he's about to walk into the briefing room and make a statement. we'll see if he answers reporters' questions as well. gloria, is there some wiggle room here? let's say they get through the government shutdown crisis, they work out some temporary deal. it doesn't eliminate funding for obama care. is there some wiggle room where the adults on both sides can come up with a deal so that the debt ceiling can be raised? >> the adults on both sides, first, i was thinking about this after talking to a bunch of white house people who say they're not going to negotiate. they're using very strong terms, you know, saying this is, you know, holding the american people hostage, et cetera, et cetera. what i can see, and i don't know if this is going to happen or not, is more of a procedural negotiation than a substantive negotiation, ie, kick the can down the road kind of negotiation, which is agree to raise the debt ceiling, not to shut down the government, for a
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time certain and we'll deal with all the other issues over the next, you know, six, eight, ten months. whatever. that won't make anybody happy, but it would at least avert a calamity. i don't know if either side would be willing to do that, but that's one of the only ways i can see out of it. >> i'm not sure anybody is going to want to push it down the road to right before elections. >> or after. >> but the fact is they're also really adamant on both sides until they aren't anymore. you don't give it up. i agree that the terminology from the white house is pretty definitive. i mean, it is we are not, we are not, we are not. you could have another piece of legislation, but you know, the problem i think so far is this has all been tied to health care. that really is a nonstarter. that really is something i don't think this white house will give up in any way, shape, or form except to tweak it. >> it started today with mitt
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romney, the former republican presidential nominee, and they spoke about this issue. let me play a little clip. listen to this. >> seems likely that the senate is going to send back to the house a clean government funding bill without the defunding provision of obama care. and house speaker john boehner is going to have a choice to make. what do you think he should do? >> we would like to see obama care go away. now the question is what's the best tactic? what's the best vehicle to try to make that happen? my tactic would be different. but that doesn't mean i don't respect and honor the fact that other republicans are choosing other tactics they think are effective because we agree on the objective. the objective is to stop obama care because it is going to hurt the american people. that's the message that ted cruz got out. >> you'll see the full interview with mitt romney at the top of the hour, 4:00 p.m. eastern, on "the lead." i recommend you stick around and watch that. jake goes through a whole bunch
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of issues with mitt romney on that. gloria, you want to make a point? >> i learned that the statement from the president is also going to be on foreign policy as well as the continuing resolution. >> presumably welcoming the upcoming u.n. security counsel resolution on syria and its chemical weapons and maybe something on iran as well. he had wanted to meet with the new iranian president. the iranian president said he wanted to meet with him but it was too complicated. they couldn't work out the details. >> we heard the president talk a little bit about the u.n. situation earlier today, so he'll probably elaborate on that as well as talking about the fiscal deal. >> there's a bunch that the government will want to say, something about the government shutdown, something about syria and its chemical weapons. want to go back to dana bash on capitol hill. is there a dialogue going on? is the president having some conversations with john boehner, the speaker of the house? are lower level officials, denis mcdonough, for example, the white house chief of staff, meeting with some of boehner's
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aides? is there a back channel going on to avert a crisis? >> no, not that we know of. not in a back channel, but high-level meetings, an aide to john boehner told joe walsh moments ago they got no call from the white house, no invitation to come to the white house for a meeting. now, we've heard white house officials say over the past 24 hours they're not going to negotiate with hostage takers. i'm not sure if they consider john boehner the hostage taker or consider him maybe the hostage to his own caucus and maybe it's not really that necessary or valuable to talk to boehner. look, in these times, republicans in the house and senate argue that, you know, the phone works both ways and that the president still has the ability and maybe even the responsibility to call up republicans in congress and say, hey, let's talk. whether they can figure something out at the end of the day, who knows, but hey, let's talk. and that's not happening. with regard to republicans and democrats here in congress, harry reid said just about an
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hour ago he's had no conversation with john boehner and the house. there's not any talking going on. the truth is everybody knows what their positions are. senate democrats have made that clear in public. house republicans, as i said before, they don't know what their position is because they're trying to sort of negotiation with their own caucus first. i think that might be a big reason why things are frozen right now. >> so we're standing by momentarily, the president will be walking into the briefing room. we're told now he will make a statement, presumably a statement not only a potential government shutdown but a statement also on the united nations security counsel, which is scheduled to reconvene at 8:00 p.m. eastern later tonight. here's the president. >> good afternoon, everybody. before i discuss the situation in congress, let me say a few things about two important opportunities in our foreign policy. just now, i spoke on the phone with president rouhani of the islamic republic of iran. the two of us discussed our
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ongoing efforts to reach an agreement over iran's nuclear program. i reiterated to the president what i said in new york. while there will surely be important obstacles to moving forward and success is by no means guaranteed, i believe we can reach a comprehensive solution. i have directed secretary kerry to continue pursuing this diplomatic effort with the iranian government. we had constructive discussions yesterday in new york with our partners, the european union, the united kingdom, france, germany, and china along with the iranian foreign minister. going forward, president rouhani and i have told our teams to work expeditiously to pursue an agreement, and throughout the process, we'll stay in close touch with our friends and allies in the region, including israel. now, we're mindful of all the challenges ahead. the very fact that this was the
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first communications between an american and iranian president since 1979 underscores the deep mistrust between our countries, but it also indicates the prospect of moving beyond that difficult history. i do believe that there is a basis for a resolution. iran's supreme leader has issued a fatwa against the production of nuclear weapons. i have made clear that we respect the right of the iranians to access peaceful nuclear energy, so the test will be meaningful, transparent, and verifiable actions which can also bring relief from the comprehensive international sanctions that are currently in place. resolving this issue obviously could serve as a major step forward in a new relationship between the united states and the islamic republic of iran. one based on mutual interest and
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mutual respect. it would also help facilitate a better relationship between iran and the international community as well as others in the region. one that would help the iranian people fulfill their extraordinary potential but also help us address other concerns that could bring greater peace and stability in the middle east. a path to a meaningful agreement will be difficult. and at this point, both sides have significant concerns that will have to be overcome, but i believe we've got a responsibility to pursue diplomacy and we have a unique opportunity to make progress with the new leadership in tehran. i also communicated to president rouhani my deep respect for the iranian people. as i said before, this comes on the same day that we can accomplish a major diplomatic breakthrough on syria. as the united nations security council will photoonvote on a resolution that would require assad to put their chemical weapons under international
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control so they could be destroyed. this will insure the assad regime must keep its commitments or face consequences. it will have to be vigilant about followling through, but it could be a significant victory for the international community and demonstrate how strong diplomacy could help improve our country and pursue a better world. america's leadership doesn't just depend on our military strength or our alliances. first and foremost, america's strength depends on a strong economy where our middle class is growing and everyone who works hard has a chance to get ahead, so let me say a few words about the situation that's developed over the past few weeks on capitol hill. here at home, the united states congress has two pressing responsibilities. pass a budget on time and pay our bills on time. if congress chooses not to pass a budget by monday, the end of
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the fiscal year, they will shut down the government along with many vital services that the american people depend on. the good news is within the past couple of hours, the united states senate, democrats and republicans, acted responsibly, by voting to keep our government open and delivering the services the american people expect. now it's up to the republicans in the house of representatives to do the same. i say that because obviously democrats have a great interest in making sure that these vital services continue to help the american people. so far, the republicans in the house of representatives have refused to move forward. and here's the thing. unlike the last time they threatened this course of action, this debate isn't really about deficits. in fact, our deficits are falling at the fastest pace that they have in 60 years.
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by the end of this year, we will have cut our deficits by more than half since i took office. so that's not what this is about. and in fact, if you have been following the discussion, the republicans in the house don't even make a pretense that that's what this is about. instead, the house republicans are so concerned with appeasing the tea party that they have threatened a government shutdown or worse unless i gut or repeal the affordable care act. i said this yesterday, let me repeat it. that's not going to happen. more than 100 million americans currently already have new benefits and protections under the law. on tuesday, about 40 million more americans will be able to finally buy quality, affordable health care just like anybody else. those marketplaces will be open for business on tuesday. no matter what, even if there's a government shutdown. that's a done deal.
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as i have said before, if republicans have specific ideas on how to genuinely improve the law rather than gut it, rather than delay it, rather than repeal it, i'm happy to work with them on that. through the normal democratic processes. but that will not happen under the threat of a shutdown. so over the next three days, house republicans will have to decide whether to join the senate and keep the government open or shut it down because they can't get their way on an issue that has nothing to do with the deficit. i realize that a lot of what's taking place right now is political grandstanding, but this grandstanding has real effects on real people. if the government shuts down on tuesday, military personnel, including those risking their lives overseas for us right now, will not get paid on time.
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federal loans for rural communities, small business owners, families buying a home, will be frozen. i'm already starting to get letters from people worried that this will have an impact on them directly. critical research into life-saving discoveries will be immediately halted. federal government has a large role across the country and touches the lives of millions of people, and those people will be harmed. and even the threat of a shutdown already is probably having a dampening effect on our economy. we saw that so any republican in congress who is currently watching, i'd encourage you to think about who you're hurting. there are probably young people in your office right now who came to work for you without much pay because they believe that public service was noble. you're preparing to send them home without a paycheck.
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you've got families with kids back in your districts who serve their country in the federal government. now they might have to plan how they're going to get by if you shut the government down. past shutdowns have disrupted the economy and this shutdown would, as well. it would throw a wrench into the gears of or economy at a time when those gears have gained some traction. that's why many republican senators and many republican governors have urged republicans to knock it off, pass a budget and move on. let's get this done. this brings me to congress' second responsibility. once they vote to keep the government open, they also have to vote within the next couple of weeks to allow the treasury to pay the bills or the money that congress has already spent. i want to repeat. raising the debt ceiling is
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simply authorizing the treasury to pay for what congress has already authorized. failure to meet this responsibility would be far more dangerous than a government shutdown. it would effectively be an economic shutdown with impacts not just here, but around the world. we don't fully understand what might happen, the dangers involved, because no congress has ever actually threatened default. but we know it would have a profound destabilizing effect on the entire economy. on the world economy. because america is the bedrock of world investment. the dollar is the reserve currency. the debt that is issued by the treasury is the foundation for
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our capital markets. that's why you don't fool with it. some republicans have suggested that unless i agree to an even longer list of demands, not just gutting the health care law, but cutting taxes for millionaires or rolling back rules on big banks and polluters or other pet projects that they'd like to see and they have been trying to get passed over the last couple of years, that they would push the button, throw america into default for the first time in history, and risk throwing us back into a recession. now, i am willing to work with anybody who wants to have a serious conversation about our fiscal future. i've demonstrated that by putting forward serious reforms to tax and entitlement programs that would bring down our long-term deficits. i have said in the past and i will continue to say that i'm willing to make a whole bunch of
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tough decisions, ones that may not be entirely welcomed by my own party. but we're not going to do this under the threat of blowing up the entire economy. i will not negotiate over congress' responsibility to pay the bills that have already been racked up. voting for the treasury to pay america's bills is not a concession to me. that's not doing me a favor. that's simply carrying out the solemn responsibilities that come with holding office up there. i don't know how i can be more clear about this. nobody gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the united states just to extract political concessions. no one gets to hurt our economy and millions of innocent people
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just because there are a couple of laws that you do not like. it has not been done in the past. we're not going to start doing it now. i'm not going to start setting a precedent, not just for me, but for future presidents, where one chamber in congress can basically say each time there needs to be a vote to make sure treasury pays its bills, we're not going to sign it unless our particular hobby horse gets advanced. imagine if you had a republican president and a democratic speaker and democratic speaker said well, we're not going to pass the debt ceiling unless we raise corporate taxes by 40%. or unless we pass background checks on guns. or whatever other list of agenda items democrats were interested in. does anybody actually think that
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we would be hearing from republicans that that was acceptable behavior? that's not how our constitutional system's designed. we are not going to do it. the american people have worked too hard to recover from a bunch of crises, several of them now over the last couple of years inflicted by some of the same folks in congress that we're talking about now, to see extremists in congress cause another crisis and keep in mind, by the way, this whole thing has to do with keeping the government open for a few months. the continuing resolution, the bill that's designed to avert a government shutdown basically just funds the government for another couple months so we could be doing this all over again. i'm sure the american people are thrilled about that. and that's why we've got to
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break this cycle. my message to congress is this. do not shut down the government, do not shut down the economy, pass a budget on time, pay our bills on time. refocus on the everyday concerns of the american people. there will be differences between democrats and republicans. we can have all kinds of conversations about how to resolve those differences. there will be areas where we can work together, there will be areas where we disagree. but do not threaten to burn the house down simply because you haven't gotten 100% of your way. that's not how our democracy is supposed to work. every day that this goes on, is another day that we're not focused on doing what we need to be focused on, which is rebuilding this great country of ours so that our middle class is growing and everybody's got opportunity if they're willing to work hard.
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that's what i'm focused on. that's what congress should be focused on as well. thank you very much, everybody. >> i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." president obama just finishing remarks there in the white house briefing room talking about the recent conversations he had with iranian president rouhani and also his feelings about this budget standoff. in the room right here, i have gloria borger, candy crowley and jim sciutto. candy, didn't sound like there was a lot of wiggle room there in president obama's remarks when it came to negotiation. >> it doesn't, and the language as gloria and i both noted, this time is so toxic. it's about hostages and somebody talked about strapping things to their chest and burning the house down, and in fact, what they've done is they have taken
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advantage of the rift in the republican party because we saw that famous show-down between corker and cruz, two senators, one from tennessee, one from texas, and basically, senator corker took on a member of his own party so it makes that rift easier to go in and exploit. >> gloria, i don't see that rift as obviously in the house, which is where this bill now goes. is there enough of a rift, will speaker boehner introduce legislation at all that would pass depending on democratic votes -- >> you want to be speaker boehner tonight? honestly? he's got -- he's got to now figure out a way to navigate -- you know, this is a fight he was dragged into kicking and screaming. let's be clear about this. by the tea party caucus. he would rather, you know, fund the government, make the fight in fact on the debt ceiling. so he's got to figure out a way to keep this caucus happy to a degree and maybe cut a deal with democrats to get something passed. the only way i can see that
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happening is on something that's less substantive and more procedural, maybe kick the can down the road which i know never happens in washington. >> jim, another big announcement in these remarks from president obama, talking about how he had just gotten off the phone with the president of iran. that's something that i haven't heard in quite a long time. >> 1979. >> and he referenced it, the first time u.s. and iranian presidents have spoken to each other since 1979. it's interesting to me that actually, hassan rouhani scooped the president by tweeting it before he came into the press room to announce it. >> i want to play some sound from president obama talking about this and get reaction from you. here's the tweet. let's hear from president obama right now. >> just now, i spoke on the phone with president rouhani of the islamic republic of iran. the two of us discussed our ongoing efforts to reach an agreement over iran's nuclear program. i reiterated to president rouhani what i said in new york.
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while there will surely be important obstacles to moving forward and success is by no means guaranteed, i believe we can reach a comprehensive solution. >> i believe we can reach a comprehensive solution. it's a remarkable thing for an american president to say about iran. we have been hearing nothing but rhetoric from the u.s. government that iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon. >> no

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